950: JOY, resilience, and NATURE's powers in unlocking personal growth w/ Christine Watson

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Hey, what is up?

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Welcome to this episode of the Wantrepreneur to Entrepreneur podcast.

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As always, I'm your host, brian LoFermento, and I'll tell you what I know.

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I'm excited for every single episode, but today's guest is one that we've had to reschedule a time or two, but it has only built up even more anticipation, because this is an entrepreneur who is doing deeply meaningful work that truly impacts each and every one of us, not only in our businesses but in our lives.

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And actually today's guest has such a beautiful way of articulating her vision, her mission, the way that she helps people and really the inner work that we all can do to grow into the best version of ourselves.

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So let me tell you about today's guest.

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Her name is Christine Watson.

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Christine is the founder of Resilient Nature LLC.

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She has more than 25 years of experience creating leadership development programs that focus on effective communication.

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Growing up in Montana provided her with a strong work ethic and a belief that everyone is a leader, regardless of title.

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And, yes, every single one of us entrepreneurs we for sure are leaders.

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As her grandfather said, everyone puts their pants on one leg at a time.

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This philosophy guides her approach to creating heart-centered leadership programs that places people at the center of success.

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Now I'm gonna let Christine tell you more about her background, but you're gonna see how much nature plays not only into her brand, but the way that she views the deeply meaningful work that we all must do and the work that we all can do.

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So, no matter what season of life you're in, no matter what season of business you're in, we're all going to learn a lot today.

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So I'm not going to say anything else.

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Let's dive straight into my interview with Christine Watson.

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All right, christine, I'm so grateful that you're joining us here today.

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First things first.

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Welcome to the show.

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Thank you, brian.

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I'm so excited to be here, heck yes, and obviously you and I are not originally from Florida, but it's fun to be joined by a fellow Florida resident these days.

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So I know that we're going to talk about all things outdoors later on, but before we get there, talk to us about who's, christine.

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How'd you start doing all these incredible things that you get to do today?

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Thanks, Brian.

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Oh, my gosh, who is Christine?

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That is a question.

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So it's really been in the last probably just few years five to 10 years that I've realized the role that nature has really played shaping me as a human, and that plays into all of my leadership, development programs, communication, and so what I want to do is really look at infusing those two pieces together.

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Look at infusing those two pieces together, creating people who appreciate nature, want to develop personally, professionally, and just come out being amazing leaders in whatever capacity that they choose.

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Yeah, I love that overview.

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It shines so much in everything that you put into the world, christine, but it also as someone who's obsessed with language and the way that we use words.

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I always like starting out with definitions, because these are big words.

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We throw them around a lot in the world of entrepreneurship, societally.

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Let's dissect leadership Clearly.

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It's played such a big role in your life.

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Is leadership to you?

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Oh yeah, Leadership to me is really about making other people shine.

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You can only be a leader if people choose to follow you, and it is a choice, and so leaders definitely look out for other people.

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They want to make sure that they take care of other people so that the best things in life can come forward.

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So when we think about leadership, it's really about how do I share my gifts so that others can elevate and do the best work that they can do?

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Yeah, and I think it's important because when we talk about leadership, a lot of people view leaders as the finished product.

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They can point to a boss that they had, or in sports, we can point to the team captain, and it's so easy to look at the finished product.

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But we all sometimes overlook our own ability to grow constantly as leaders, and that's why I'm going to use today throughout our conversation.

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I'm going to piggyback off so many of the words that you have on your website, because I do think you so beautifully articulate it, and the first one that I want to go down this path with you is.

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It says right there design your personal development journey.

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Christine, this is a journey that we are all on.

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Talk to us about that viewpoint of it, as that journey instead of just the finished product that we all see.

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Absolutely so.

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I believe that leadership is like you never get there.

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You're constantly developing and learning and growing, and so my purpose in life in general definitely as an entrepreneur is to help other people design their personal journey, and whether that is somebody who is just on an individual mission they want to become better at representing their neighborhood or you're actually working at the top level senior executive leaders within an organization, my sweet spot is really about helping kind of newer enroll leaders find their role, their space, and they're definitely on a journey because they've been really successful at something enough to catch the eye of the hiring manager and they ultimately get promoted.

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But now their journey changes to suddenly becoming one who supports others and gets the work done through other people, and so I want to help people on that journey because it's a lifelong process.

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We are constantly learning.

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Employee and societal expectations change, so there's always new things that we can learn.

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Yeah, I've always found it interesting, christine, the more that I think about leadership and the way that we societally have it is that when you excel in a role let's use the example of employee If I'm a really good employee and I get promoted to the boss, the supervisor, the shift lead, whatever it may be it's so fascinating to me that someone who was good at the thing at being a practitioner is now promoted to a position where you need a whole different set of skills.

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However good you are as a practitioner no longer matters, because leadership is its own set of skills.

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Talk to us about that dynamic, because for a lot of entrepreneurs, what I find, christine, is that they think, oh, if I love web designing or if I love social media, let me go start a web designer, a social media agency, and they view themselves as that practitioner.

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But you're no longer the practitioner, you're a leader of people, whether it's your team, your clients, whatever it may be.

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Talk to us about that dynamic, because I've always found it fascinating.

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Absolutely.

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That is by far the most challenging thing that leaders face is they've been really good at whatever it is they do and now they have to communicate effectively.

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They have to share maybe some unpopular ideas or policy changes or new ways of doing business.

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They're often especially newer enrolled leaders.

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They're stuck, they're like in the middle of having to deal with their team but also carry out the orders from people in higher level positions, and so they have to resolve conflict.

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They have to provide feedback, both constructive and redirective feedback, and they often don't get to do the work that they were doing and maybe they became really good at those task oriented things, but now they have to motivate and encourage and coach other people to successfully perform that work, other people to successfully perform that work.

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So that's really the big challenge that I address specifically around a lot of effective communication techniques, because I can share information with you and chances are it may or may not go well depending upon our communication style.

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So it gets pretty tricky at times.

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Yeah for sure.

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All right, I'm just going to keep following this path, because now you're talking about different styles, christina, someone.

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Soccer was a big part of my life and I had team captains, I had coaches all different styles and even within one locker room, if there were 22 players, there were 22 different personalities and styles there.

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How do we operate in a world where there are so many different styles of the people that we're dealing with, but also, for us, stylistic choices that we get to make as leaders?

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Absolutely, oh my gosh.

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So if I were to go out into the world and just communicate in the way that I like to communicate, from my natural style, I'm probably going to be effective about 15% of the time.

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So I have to get really good at understanding, first of all, my natural tendencies and then the style tendencies of other people, and one of the tools that I use is called the Everything Disc Profile, and what it does is it identifies our individual styles and teaches us how to flex that style so that I can be more effective.

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Maybe you like more or less detailed information, maybe you're focused on the process, or maybe you really want to know how it's going to impact the people.

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Just like all of your teammates in the locker room, they're all focused a little bit on different items in terms of like, what position they're playing, what the competition is looking like specifically in that role, and so in the world of work, we have to do the same thing, because we're dealing with teams of all sizes, people that come together for different reasons, and leaders have to be effective at navigating that.

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Yeah, it's something that we hear so much, whether we're talking about personal development or leadership or marketing, is it always starts at the same place, which is really that awareness level, and we're very fortunate that there are tools out there.

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You talk about DISC being one of them.

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I've long been a sucker for Myers-Briggs.

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That's something that I'm really well versed in.

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But, christine, we've heard guests in the past talk about DISC.

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What's so powerful about DISC?

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What is the appeal there?

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As someone who hasn't gone down that path so deeply as I have Myers-Briggs, for example, what's so special about DISC?

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and understanding ourselves and the teams that we're hoping to lead, absolutely.

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So I'm a huge fan of DISC, obviously because I use the tool, and the reason I like it is it's simple.

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There are four main communication tendencies, four main styles, and all of us are a combination.

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So we have tendencies that range in varying degrees in any of the four styles.

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But we can pretty simply categorize someone's likely tendencies through some basic observation.

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We can determine, first of all are they more active and fast-paced, do they like to get things done, drive for results, or are they more cautious and methodical?

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Do they really like to take their time?

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So that's one continua where it will determine your tendencies.

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Then the other continua is do they tend to really like to focus on the process, kind of task oriented, sort of questioning, skeptical, making plan A, b and C, making sure that all the bases are covered, or are they tend to be more accepting and warm and focused on people and how are the people going to interact with this?

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And do I need to really kind of take a look at some collaboration and interpersonal communication styles?

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So by really taking a look at those two continuous, you can assess somebody pretty rapidly in the moment as you're observing them or having conversation, and then it's simply a matter of sort of meeting them where they're at.

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If they are more methodical and calm, maybe taking a pause after presenting some information or not asking them to respond on the spot could be exceptionally effective.

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Yeah, christine, it's so enjoyable hearing you talk about DISC as an example, but really what we're talking about is understanding, is finding that level of empathy and sympathy as far as people who are like us, but people who aren't like us and taking but for the ones who are catching us on YouTube, obviously you and I are smiling a lot throughout this conversation.

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You and I have joy as one of our commonalities.

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It's something that I'm very fortunate.

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I am so appreciative of all the things that I get to do and these things make me very happy and I can tell in all of the work that you do, it makes you very happy to work with people.

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Obviously, we have those in common.

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So let's talk about joy, because it's so prevalent in your messaging, in your positioning.

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It's right there the top of your about page says be the joy in the neighborhood.

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I've read the backstory behind your brand of resilient nature, but take us there For listeners who haven't seen your website just yet.

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What's that all about?

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Oh, my goodness, yes.

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So be the joy in the neighborhood.

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I, if you there's.

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There's a lot going around on social media.

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It's been going around for a while.

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If you can be anything, be kind.

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And I think that's such a powerful message, and for me it's if you can be anything, be joyful, because you don't know the burdens that people are carrying.

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And where this comes from for me is as a young girl my entire childhood up until I graduated high school I had a neighbor across the alley.

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Her name was Joy.

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I had a neighbor across the alley.

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Her name was Joy, and she was an adult who made me feel like I was the most important person to her.

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When I was talking to her, she cared about me, she listened to me, she remembered things, she invested time in me, and, honestly, that's what all of us want and need.

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And this came from someone who.

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She was just a neighbor, she wasn't a family member, she didn't have to be nice to me, and so it wasn't until years later that I looked back on that and realized what a significant person she's been in my life.

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And she's still alive.

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She's in her 80s.

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I still stay in touch with her, but I have carried her spirit with me.

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Everywhere I've lived, I try to be the joy in the neighborhood, whether it's my physical neighborhood where I live, or outside in my workspace, the work I'm doing with people.

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If I can bring joy to people's lives, if I can make them smile, if I can just get them to set down their burden for five seconds, I feel like my day has been successful.

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So, remembering what she has done for me and then trying to really pass that along, because I think the more joy we can spread, it will just reverberate and continue to do good things across everywhere.

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Yes, oh gosh, I am such a firm believer in that it's one of the founding principles behind this very podcast is a rising tide lifts all boats.

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Listeners have to hear me say that each and every single week and, christine, it's something that obviously you and I have embraced.

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It's fun because we're talking not just personally here, but also business wise.

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I feel like both you and I have been able to inject this joy and this happiness and the kindness in the work that we do outward facing as well.

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But I'm curious if you get faced with this, because I certainly hear it every once in a while from you listeners, who I so appreciate when you reach out.

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But, christine, it's that question of how can you be joyful when things are hard.

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Times are hard, business is hard, life is hard.

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There's so many hardships in life and I know resilient is right there in the nature or in the word of your company.

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But how can we do that in the face of hardship?

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Oh, my goodness.

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Yes, people ask me all the time why do you smile so much?

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It's like well, honestly, it comes naturally, but it really makes us feel better when we are projecting that happiness, joy, kindness out into the world.

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And so some of the ways that I maintain this exuberance you might call it is seriously my connection to nature and implementing resilience techniques.

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If we don't take care of ourselves physically, emotionally, mentally, spiritually if any one of those elements is out of whack, we're going to be lopsided.

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So we have to take care of ourselves in all of those different domains.

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And then, as humans, we are nature.

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We're not separate from nature.

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We're connected to nature.

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And so for me, even if it's just sitting in my front yard smelling the grass, hearing the birds, that is such a powerful connection that fills my cup that I firmly believe that, as humans, we're not designed to live in the world in which we've created.

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We're not designed to do the amount of work that we're able to do with technology, and so to take some time each and every day to spend time in nature is one of those pieces where we get grounded, we can reconnect with the natural world and sort of let all the extraneous challenges that come from the civilized world sort of get out of our way, and I think it's in those moments that thoughts can become more clear.

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We can more easily define what we want our journey to look like.

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That's true to us and not somebody else's vision of our journey.

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So, so, those are some of the tools that I use.

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Yeah, really well said, Christine.

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This is a special episode for us here because I didn't tell you before we hit record, but this is episode 950, which is a big milestone for us, and part of that is that we've never had someone come on and say those words together resilience techniques, Christine.

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What the heck are resilience techniques?

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All right.

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So, man, this is yes.

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Where do I even start?

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So, resilience techniques.

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It can be something as simple as, let's say, that you're confronted with a disruption.

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You're driving, you're driving down the road and somebody you know you get into a fender bender.

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There's there's no like physical implications.

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Your car has a crushed fender, so now it has to go to the body shop, so we're all okay.

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However, we can react in a variety of ways, and a resilience technique that I like to use is we have choices.

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We can, in the moment of that particular disruption, we can decide that we want to accept what is Okay.

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This is now my situation.

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I need to deal with it.

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It just is a matter of fact.

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We can change our situation, so I can decide you know what?

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This road tends to have a lot of these things happening.

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I'm just not going to drive down this stretch of highway at this time of day.

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I'm going to take a different route.

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I'm just not going to drive down this stretch of highway at this time of day.

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I'm going to take a different route.

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I'm going to do something different.

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So we can make changes, or we can simply adapt and say you know what I'm going to do a combination I'm going to accept what is, I'm going to make some changes and I'm going to go about using some calming techniques and make sure that I have reserves available so that the next time I'm confronted with this situation I'm better prepared for it.

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So, first of all, recognizing, kind of, what our go-to tendencies are and asking does that work for me and if not, what might some other options be?

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Yeah, it's funny as a podcast host, I always just think about what the listeners are thinking, because I wish they could jump into this conversation in real time.

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But, listeners, I hope I'm doing you justice here because, christine, hearing you talk about these things one thing and actually I want to push back a little bit on something you said earlier, because you said that joy comes a little more natural to you and smiling comes a little more natural to you.

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It's something that I hear all the time and the older that I get, the more I appreciate that very few things come naturally.

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All of them come through reps and it's repetition is that, christine, you and I, so many times, in the face of something happening, whether it's a fender bender or something hopefully a little less significant in our day-to-day lives, is that you and I smiled and from that we developed that mechanism of smiling, of joy, of all of these things.

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And hearing you talk about other traits like adaptability, some people, christine, might say well, I'm just not an adaptable person.

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Change always throws me off.

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How much of this is born with us, that innate personality.

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I've got a six-year-old niece and nephew.

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They're twins and seeing at six, even at two years old, you could see how different they were.

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So, christine, my question to you is how much of this is innate, that we're born with, that does come natural to us, versus how much of these things like adaptability, joy, resilience, can we refine and nurture and grow through those reps of life, of business, of all the things?

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Yeah, oh my gosh.

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So I didn't go to medical school.

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I didn't go to medical school.

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So I'm not sure about how much is innate and what we develop.

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But the one thing I do know is that we can develop resilience.

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We can learn to do those kinds of things that help us live happier, healthier, more connected lives.

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And I've done some research with different resilience classes that I've trained and we've measured people's resilience levels on a scale before they took the session and then 12 weeks later we've measured it at the end of the session and overall they've shown improvements of anywhere from 10 to 20% increase in their resilience levels, in their resilience levels.

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So it's been clearly studied and documented that when we practice and do those reps, as you say, that we are able to make changes.

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Now for some of us it might come easier or it might be more difficult, like if you're gonna ask me to become a computer analyst, that's gonna be very challenging for me.

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So we definitely have natural tendencies, but we do have the ability as humans to practice and repeat and practice again and continue to build those important relationships.

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So I'm a firm believer in humanity's resilience.

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Yes, gosh.

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I love that message, Christine, especially.

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It resonates so deeply for me, the three words that have guided me through life.

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Something that my mom said to me as a kid, and she continues to say to this day, is anything is possible.

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I remember being a little kid and I would look out the car window as we were driving through the suburbs of Boston and I would see this mansion and I would say, oh my gosh, look at this person's house.

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I come from an immigrant family that was like so foreign to me to see that lavish lifestyle.

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My mom said it's just a normal person, it's just someone like you.

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Anything is possible and it's something that followed me.

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And hearing that example of a computer analyst, some people might say Christine, I'm where I am in my career journey.

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I can't it's a word that bothers me, I can't make that shift.

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But what I'm hearing from you today is we can, we so can, even if it's these big topics of resilience, of adaptability.

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So, Christine, I really appreciate your message and part of it that I know goes into your work is obviously you being able to get at that stuff, this I can't attitude, the barriers that hold us back as leaders, as people Talk to us about your ability to get there with people, because listening is obviously a core part of your quote unquote job.

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But how do you get at this stuff?

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How do you discover what's actually holding people back?

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Oh yes.

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So it's amazing how often people just want to be heard.

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So listening is a huge piece of it, but it's listening with intent and I would never approach someone and claim to have the answers or know what they should do, know which route they should take.

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My role in the work that I do is to simply have some tools of very, very solid, extensive background in tools and techniques that work that help people discover for themselves how to develop resilience, create leadership tendencies, and so I think my superpower if I were to call it that is just my ability to connect and build relationships with people.

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Because once you have established that and the person or the people that you're working with trust you and feel like you really are there for them, that's when the real transformation can begin to happen.

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Because I mean, let's face it, we live in a terribly skeptical, negative world.

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I mean, if you watch any kind of news or consume that material on a daily basis, you're inundated.

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So being able to show people that I am willing to listen, I've got some resources and, hey look, I might not be everybody's cup of tea.

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People do it differently.

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So if you're looking for that kind of connection that I call it heart-centered leadership, where you really want to dig in and figure out what's going to work for each person.

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That's the secret.

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I don't have the end-all, be-all answer on how to be a leader, because I think it's different for everyone, so I help people get there on their own journey.

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Yeah, and to that point, christine, and to your point of all of us doing things differently and delivering our services and our products very differently, part of what I think that makes you so different is the ways in which you deliver that.

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I saw it.

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It's one of the first things that stood out to us behind the scenes when we reached out to have you on the show, is right there on your offerings forest bathing, join me for a walk, schedule a group or private experience.

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Talk to us about some of those unique ways that you deliver these experiences to your clients.

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Yeah.

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So forest bathing oh my goodness this.

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I guess I've been forest bathing my whole life, but I just didn't know it.

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It comes from the Japanese culture.

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Back in the 1980s, the Japanese discovered that their people were getting sick.

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They were having all of these different maladies high blood pressure, stroke.

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They even had increased levels of suicide.

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And it was during a time when Japan was experiencing intense industrialization.

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All the people were moving out of the countryside into cities and hence they were lacking their daily connection with nature.

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The Japanese Ministry of Health kind of did a bunch of research and studies into it, and they found that when we spend time in nature because that's how we've lived our thousands, millions of years we've been on the planet our heart rate lowers, we have lower levels of cortisol.

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We trees actually emit what are called phytoncides, which are cancer-causing, cancer-fighting cells, and so when you take people out of the natural environment, they don't have those health benefits.

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And so forest bathing is the loose translation of the Japanese practice called Shinrin-yoku.

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And so I have always known that I feel better, think better, respond better to everything when I spend time outdoors, and just this past year I went through a certification with the Association of Forest Therapy Guides and basically I take people out on nature walks where we call it a slow wander.

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It's not about identifying plants, but what we do is we get out and basically experience the sound, smell, touch, texture of what we experience in nature.

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We slow down.

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It's almost like mindfulness, walking mindfulness in nature, paying attention, and what people report at the end of these nature walks is an incredible sense of calm, less anxiety.

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Share with me, several weeks after the walk, that she was able to really focus in on some personal concerns she was having, which led her to quit her job and start a brand new career in a different area, because she was able to get clarity of mind just by slowing down.

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And so those are some of the benefits that forest bathing.

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It also goes by the name of forest therapy, but you can do it in your yard and anyone can do this.

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But I have been trained to basically lead people through the process and it really can be life transforming, to give you that time and space to experience just being mindful, and when we clear all the clutter out of our brains, it gives us space to think.

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Yeah, really well said.

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I so appreciate those insights, christine, even hearing you talk about these things.

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You and I are very fortunate to live in a state with some really cool state parks and a lot of interesting wildlife to accompany us on these long walks.

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So even just hearing you talk about it it really replenishes the soul because it's something that we can all relate back to.

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Obviously, you and I live in cities here in the great state, the Sunshine state, but even with that said, I so appreciate getting out into nature and I think it's something that I know for me is imperative.

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I am an extreme extrovert.

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I love being in cities, I love being around people, but you need to unplug, you need to get away from it all and into nature.

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So really love those insights there and I will say that, overall, this episode has just inspired me personally.

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And and I will say that overall, this episode has just inspired me personally and I know for so many listeners that will get to tune into our conversation today to do this inner work, because as much as we're talking about leading others, so much of the work that you've guided us through today focuses on understanding ourselves and investing in our own personal development.

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So, christine, I knew we'd be short on time today, listeners, we are going to be inviting Christine back for an Action Saturday, so total spoiler alert there.

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But, christine, before we let you go today, I always love asking this question at the end of episodes, because you're also one of us.

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You are also a fellow entrepreneur, growing your business, servicing your clients, which is incredible the work that you do and the impact that you have, especially with these real life examples.

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So, with all of that in mind, what's your one piece of advice, the one takeaway?

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Knowing that listeners are at all different stages of their personal journeys, their business journeys, what's that one thing that you want to impart on them?

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So I think your mom had fabulous advice.

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Is that and now I'm going to say this wrong?

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But when you said that earlier, it really resonated with me is that you can be anything.

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Isn't that what she said?

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Anything is possible, and never give up.

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I have had times on my journey when I've said to myself what the heck are you doing?

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You are passionate about this and you think this is great, but nobody else cares.

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And then the phone will ring or I'll have a conversation, I'll get an email, something will happen, and out of the blue, people are like oh my gosh, I'm so glad I found you.

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So my one piece of advice is you can be anything, you can do anything, and don't give up.

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Just keep after it.

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It's a lot of work, but it will pay off.

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Yes, gosh, that cannot be said often enough.

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It is hard.

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Listeners, you heard it from Christine here personally today.

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It's in the name of her business Resilient Nature, this stuff.

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It's meant to be hard.

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There is no easy way For so many people who maybe tune into a business podcast and hope to hear kind of that golden pill that's gonna take them to success.

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There is no magic pill.

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It is hard.

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We have to do the work.

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Christine, you've been such a shining example and inspiration for all of us there today and I've teased your website quite a few times.

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I think it's so incredible the way you articulate things, the way you display things.

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So for listeners who want to go deeper down your journey and actually before I kick it your way, christine, because I know you're humble, I'm going to talk about this for you is that I think it's incredible.

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Right on your homepage you have so many calls to actions as to the way that you can help people.

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They can book a complimentary consultation, a 30-minute call with you.

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They can pay right there and go really in-depth and get their own personal resilience profile, understand their everything disc profile.

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There's so many ways that you help people.

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So that's me teasing it for you, christine, but you drop those links on us.

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Where should listeners go from here?

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Awesome, thank you.

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So my website is myresilientnaturecom.

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You can find me on Instagram at resilientnaturecom.

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You can find me on Instagram at resilientnature.

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I'm not very active on Facebook, but I'm trying to get that started, and I also have sites set on starting a YouTube channel.

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So more to come on that, but that's where you'll find me.

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Yes, listeners, you already know the drill.

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We're making it as easy as possible for you to find Christine's links, no matter where it is that you're tuning into today's episode.

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Find the show notes.

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Down below, you'll find a direct link to MyResilientNaturecom.

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You can click right on through.

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We're also linking to Christine's personal LinkedIn.

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If you want to have her in your network and if you want to join me in peer pressuring her to indeed start that YouTube channel, don't be shy in adding an amazing entrepreneur to your network.

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So, christine, on behalf of myself and all the listeners worldwide, thanks so much for joining us on the show today.

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Thank you, brian, it's been awesome.

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Hey, it's Brian here, and thanks for tuning in to yet another episode of the Wantrepreneur to to entrepreneur podcast.

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