906: Transforming PASSION into a business and making the entrepreneurial leap w/ Leila Fatalian

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Hey, what is up?

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Welcome to this episode of the Entrepreneur to Entrepreneur podcast.

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As always, I'm your host, brian LoFermento, and you know what I love about today's episode.

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How many of us and how many times in life has someone said to you oh, you're so good at that, you should charge others and do that for other people, or you should start a business about that.

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Well, today's entrepreneur is incredible at what she does, and her story is right along those lines.

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She not only had an incredible career up to the point of her starting her business, but she just took the plunge and she started serving others with what is a really intimate and awesome service that.

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I've gone all through her work and it's so clear that not only does she love what she does, but her clients absolutely love the personal touch that she puts into it.

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So let me tell you all about today's guest.

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Her name is Layla Fatalian.

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Layla spent over a decade in the supply chain world before taking a leap of faith into interior design a huge career shift and one that I'm so excited to hear about.

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The adventure began for her unexpectedly moving into her new home.

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Her flair for design just didn't create a space that she loved, but it also caught the eyes of friends and family.

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Their compliments and requests for design help sparked a realization that she had another passion waiting to be explored.

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So Layla went for it.

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She decided to pass or pause on her corporate career to fully embrace this new creative path.

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This leap, for her into the unknown wasn't just about learning to select the perfect color palettes.

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It was also about creating personal and professional growth.

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Starting her own business has been challenging, which it is for all of us, but it also combines her love for design with a joy of entrepreneurship.

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Now she spends her days transforming homes into expressions of personality and style, and for her, nothing beats the feeling of seeing her clients' faces light up when they see their new space.

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I'm so excited, not only to hear her story, but to learn about her attitude towards servicing clients and running her own business.

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I'm excited about this one.

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Let's dive straight into my interview with Leila Vitalian.

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All right, leila, I'm so excited that you're here with us today.

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First things first.

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Welcome to the show.

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Thank you, thanks for having me.

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Heck, yes, you.

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Obviously.

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You already know I love your entrepreneurial story and all the pivots and turns that came with it.

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So before we get into the good stuff, take us beyond the bio.

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Who's Leila?

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How'd you just take that plunge into the world of entrepreneurship?

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Sure Well, I grew up in an entrepreneurial family.

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My parents started their own business in computers and education when I was about six or seven years old.

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I remember the endless hours they dedicated to growing their business and I always admired their dedication.

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I remember even as a child, instead of playing with toys, I would role play as a business owner, which I really enjoyed.

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Then fast forward when I was 21 years old, I moved to the US, essentially starting from the ground up.

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My academic journey began in computer science in my home country, but after I moved I soon discovered my passion for supply chain.

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So I returned to university and graduated with honors, and I have been fortunate to land exciting supply chain roles right after graduation.

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My journey into interior design is pretty interesting.

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I always had a passion and eye for interior design, but I never considered turning it into a business.

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And you know, when I decorated and designed my home, many friends who visited us admired my work and asked for my help in designing their homes.

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Initially I took it as a compliment, but as more people approached me, I decided to give it a try, like a serious try this time, and the intent, besides exploring this passion, was also to gain different skill sets, you know, at the very least grow on a personal level and, honestly, this experience really boosted my skills in so many different areas.

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So I started taking interior design courses, got my certification and started helping friends and family with their homes and through word of mouth I gradually received more projects and this passion, eventually to the birth of Wanta Design.

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So, looking back at my journey as a whole, I think it's been always about willingness to take risks, constantly challenging myself and step out of my comfort zone to achieve personal and professional growth.

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Yeah, I love that overview, Leila, especially because obviously you come from an entrepreneurial family.

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But I am going to call you out and give you huge credit here, because I think it's so powerful that we're all told these things from time to time.

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A friend saying, oh my gosh, can you help me with that?

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And obviously I teased it at the top of today's episode.

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But, layla, you didn't just heed that praise from friends and family, you actually decided to go deep into that rabbit hole.

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But it's interesting to me because you obviously had a successful career.

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So take us back to your mindset at that time, as opposed to just hearing the praise and the call to action from friends and family.

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What pushed you into saying you know what?

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I'm going to take this seriously and I'm actually going to do it as a business.

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Um, to be very honest, um, I think I had a moment where I was like I'm only living this life once and if I don't try it now, uh, I'm afraid I won't ever try it, and I just don't want to get to the point where I regret the chances that I didn't take or I regret the risks that I never took, and although I was having a great career, I knew that even after taking this shot, if things don't work out for any reasons, I can always come back.

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I can always get back, like I can always get back to where I started.

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So I'm not really losing anything at this point.

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Uh, I thought at the minimum, as I mentioned earlier, the least that this experience can give me is I can grow on a personal level.

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So I just had that moment of courage and, of course, the support that I had from my family members and you know the encouragement I got from the friends.

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I just thought I just had that courage this moment that I need to take this shot now, because I just don't want to regret it later.

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And it's been an amazing experience so far.

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Yeah, yeah, that's really powerful advice.

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I want to echo that for all of our listeners here today is, as you said, your job will always be there, your career will always be there.

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If things don't work, you can always go backwards.

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I feel like, societally, we put so much pressure on these decisions as if they're final or as if they're fatal, but that attitude that you're putting on display for us here today, that's so incredibly important, especially for all of you entrepreneurs.

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I'm going to use Layla's example story here today.

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For so many of you to take that leap and, layla, you called out courage.

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It's an essential ingredient, because all of us are scared.

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Even though you were already helping people, even though you already had the support of so many friends and family, it still is a big leap to make and so, with that in mind, I do want to.

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I want you to take us back to that first client, because you had already helped people just on a friendly basis, and I think that's so cool.

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It must have given you confidence, but still there were so many unknowns about going ahead and selling your services.

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Take us back to that first client, or that first point where you realized, holy cow, this is a real business.

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Yeah, actually, the first client that I got, I was just like really you want to pay me for what I love to do?

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Like I just couldn't understand or I was or excited about this opportunity.

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And I want to actually mention that I faced a lot of challenges starting this business.

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I think majority of those were mental, like overcoming overcoming the overcoming imposter syndrome.

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The first client that I got, I could not believe I could do the job, even though I've done it many times for my friends, for myself and.

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But when it become like more serious, I just had all these battles in my in my head that can I do it?

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Do you really want to pay me for what I love to do always?

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So overcoming imposter syndrome, for instance, was a significant hurdle and initially I felt like I needed to know everything and I have to master every detail before taking on any projects.

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So I was spending countless hours learning everything and I thought I have to be ready first.

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Then I start taking more clients or taking more projects, but I never felt that I'm ready enough.

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So the self-doubt and mental barriers were very challenging and overcoming them was a constant battle.

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So eventually I just decided I'm not going to ever feel like I'm ready and I'm going to learn throughout this process, throughout this journey, and I was so fortunate that my first clients, or my first project they were extremely nice and so kind to me and they didn't make me feel uncomfortable with any.

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I did make mistakes in the beginning, but they were very honest and we were very transparent with each other.

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So, yeah, so I started that project and the way that it turned out the entire project turned out to be it boosted my confidence and I was just ready to take on more projects.

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Yeah, I love that story, especially because I want to call that one thing out, that point that you made about you love to do this and it kind of is that moment where you're just like pinch me, people are going to pay me for this.

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That's crazy.

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I feel like that can be a blessing and a curse for so many different entrepreneurs, because we love doing it and that's what guides you through all of the challenges that we all inevitably face in the journey.

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But at the same time, because we love it, I feel like too many entrepreneurs devalue themselves and their skills and their services as a result of that.

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Talk to us about that, cause I know for sure back in 2012, when I started my marketing agency, I cringe at thinking about the prices that I used to charge I was devaluing myself so much.

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Layla, how did you navigate those waters?

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that is exactly right because, um, I did a struggle with that and in order to find a way to solve this problem or the challenge I reach out to other entrepreneurs or I enjoy, I joined the interior design community and I learned that that's not only me, everyone almost as you mentioned, you yourself, everyone almost feeling the same way, especially if your business is based on your passion.

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You feel like maybe you just again I'm going to go back to the imposter syndrome Maybe that's the imposter syndrome that kind of gets in your head that you're devaluing yourself.

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So, for me, in order to overcome that, personally, I joined the interior design community.

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I reached out to different mentors, different designers that they've done this in the past and I just wanted to get out of my own bubble and get more into a business mindset.

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Like how are you?

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Um, you know, um, how are you doing this?

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What are your services?

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And learning more from like turning my passion into a business was a different journey.

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Like doing what you love is, I think it's one journey, and then turning that into a business idea or being a business owner is a whole different thing.

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So, for me, in order to learn more about that, learn how to price myself or how to run a business.

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I joined that community and I constantly learn from them, and I'm still, to this day, reaching out to them to learn more, because I may be a great interior designer, but I really need to learn more about how to run a business.

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So, yeah, that's how.

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That's how I'm learning.

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Yeah, I love the fact that you call that out because, layla, obviously at the end of today's episode we're gonna talk about your business website.

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We're gonna drop those links.

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Listeners, you already know where you can find all those, but I will say, from the outside, looking in, everything looks so strategic and intentional and polished.

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Your website's incredible.

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The branding that you've put together is so elegant and it shows so much about the pride that you take in your own work.

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But I love the transparency in how you share.

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You're always improving and evolving as a business owner, as an entrepreneur, and so, with all of that in mind, I want to tap into some of the genius of Layla the interior designer, not just the entrepreneur, because a core part of that is this is a very intimate service.

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You're working inside of people's most intimate spaces, their homes.

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Talk to us about some of those cares and considerations that you put into the client experience, not just the spaces that you create.

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That's a great question and you are so right.

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You are working on spaces that people live and they care about those spaces.

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So it's a very sensitive job to make sure that you're happy with your work but, at the same time, clients is happy.

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I think when I initially started, I just wanted to have something really great on my portfolio.

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I just wanted to have something really great on my portfolio.

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I just wanted to have a great outcome, the way that I love it.

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But then, as I started getting more projects and working with different clients of different backgrounds, I learned that it's actually more important that they love the projects, even though if I'm not 100% aligned with some of the things.

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They love the projects even though if I'm not 100% aligned with some of the things.

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But at the end of the day, they are the one living in that house or in that space and it's more important for them to be happy and satisfied with the results.

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So I had to kind of like be a little bit more flexible, as I'm getting more flexible, as I'm getting more projects and making sure that you know having my discovery call, which is free of charge, because it's basically, you know, getting to know you, you get to know me Am I a good designer for your project?

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And just listening to the clients during that one hour call or meeting what do you want, what do you get, what do you want to get out of this project, what do you want to see in this space, what colors do you like, what colors you don't like?

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And just gathering as much information as possible during that one hour discovery call and then, uh, putting it, putting everything into an action and constantly communicating, making sure that we are all still on the same page.

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And what I like to do, because, as a customer, I like to have options, but not also a lot of options that I get so confused.

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But I wanna see more than one option.

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So that's what I provide to my clients.

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I provide them with multiple options and, based on our discovery call results, and I ask them which one do you want to choose?

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So it's always like collaboration and of it to have that collaborative environment, because being client facing is something that we should all, or client oriented is something we should all aspire to, but you put it so succinctly, there is that they have to love the results because it's their home.

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So I think it's particularly important makes me want to ask you, considering your supply chain experience, layla, there's so much that you are used to from a process-oriented perspective, from a metrics-oriented perspective, and now you're in a radically different industry.

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How do those two mesh together?

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Well, because I'm a big believer that everything we do in life prepares us for this very moment, but also we're being prepared for things we can't even imagine right now.

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With all of that in mind, how did your supply chain career background prepare you for what you do now?

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I love this question.

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As an interior designer, you know, with lots of supply chain experience, I would say my ability to seamlessly integrate my planning, project management, vendor relations, negotiation all the skills that I learned during my journey as a supply chain person really was extremely helpful and was in addition to my creative design ideas and all the skill sets.

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So, to answer your questions, I would say that kind of supply chain background or what I learned throughout the supply chain journey now as an interior designer, that made me to be good at looking at things from different angles, making sure everything runs smoothly, from picking the right pieces to keeping projects on budget, all while you're creating a beautiful space for the clients.

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So I not only make sure that my design projects are beautiful, but also grounded in great planning and resource optimization.

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Everything that I learned from supply chain and I think that's actually one of the keys to my success is my capability to manage the operational aspects of design projects with the same fineness as the creative ones.

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So if I have to summarize this and give one word answer or one sentence answer, I would say my supply chain background helped me to now provide stress-free design experiences to my clients.

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Yeah, leila, I'll tell you what.

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Hearing you say the words strategic with regards to interior design makes me realize why I don't necessarily love all of the spaces that I live and work in.

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And it's because for so many of us, it isn't strategic For so many of us, you know, if you're moving from different places.

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I'm someone who travels a lot and I'll go places and I'll say I love this space, but I can't put my finger on how to recreate that in my own space.

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Where does that come from?

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Because a lot of us work from home.

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A lot of solopreneurs, especially, work from home, and so we are merging our workspaces with our home spaces.

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Since we're talking about interior design, I want to tap into that side of your brain.

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How do we even begin to go about creating that space that can function in all the ways that we need it to?

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Yeah.

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So say, if I have a client that they want to have an old home office or they want to turn one of the extra bedroom that they have in their house into an office.

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So again, it's so overwhelming because you go on Pinterest, you go on social media and you see all these different ideas or you go, you know, to different stores and you see all these beautiful arts and tables and rocks and you just love them all and you want to bring them all into your office.

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But it's very important.

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I think how interior designer can help you is they can look at things from a bigger picture.

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I think how interior designer can help you is they can look at things from a bigger picture.

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I think I personally sometimes when I go to stores, I want to buy this, I want to buy that, but when I bring them together, they don't necessarily go well with each other.

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So how you want to start is that it does get overwhelming in the beginning, but you just want to write down what do you want to get out of this space?

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What's more important for you?

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Is it more functional or do you want it to make it more beautiful?

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What do you exactly want from this room.

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So just writing those things down and start from bigger stuff.

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So say, if you are working on your home office, you would work.

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You get the table first, maybe the table lamp would be the last.

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So you start with the bigger piece because it's going to be easier at the end to get the smaller stuff.

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And before you're purchasing them, what I do do actually, I have like softwares or different tools.

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I put everything together to make sure that everything looks great on a paper before go ahead and purchase them.

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So you have, like you know, working with interior designer they, they come with all these tools and 3d designs.

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So you won't necessarily spend all this money on all the materials, all the furniture, and then you come home and they don't go well with each other.

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So you just see them visually on a 3D design on a piece of paper before you actually commit to them.

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So I would say, when you want to start from something, just write down what do you want to get out of this room, what's the most important thing and what do you not want to start from something.

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Just write down what do you want to get out of this room, what's the most important thing and what do you not want to see.

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I remember when I talked with one of my clients.

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They said it's actually very interesting and very helpful when you think about what you don't want to see rather than what do you want to see, because when it comes to what you want to see, the options are limitless.

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But when you want to explain what you don't want to see, it's easier to write that down on a piece of paper.

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So just write it down on a piece of paper and then you go from there and obviously reach out if you need professional help.

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Yes, I love that approach because it really is a roadmap and so much of what we talk about in life and business really comes really is a roadmap, and so much of what we talk about in life and business really comes down to being intentional.

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And I think it's something that, when we start by having that map in place and putting constraints, I love the fact that you introduced us to that approach of saying, hey, here are the things I also don't want.

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It's something that my friends joke around with me with here in Tampa is when I say to people, oh, I don't know what I want to eat tonight, some of my friends will ask what don't you want to eat?

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If I can rattle off, I don't want Italian, I don't want Mexican, I don't want this Well then it's easier to start identifying what it is that I do like.

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So I love those constraints and that approach to problem solving because ultimately, it's what we do in our businesses every single day.

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And, layla, I do want to talk to you from a business perspective.

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I think it's so cool to see the way that your business has evolved, because you brought up technology and obviously that's a big part of your industry and it's a big part of the way that you service your clients, but let's also talk about the way you service your clients, because a lot of people think of interior design services as someone coming to my home.

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But obviously 2020, the pandemic changed so much of the way the world works.

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A lot of us use zoom these days, so how are those ways that you're servicing clients both near and far?

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yes, um.

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So obviously, you, you there are different ways.

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Again, as you mentioned, um, during pandemic, a lot of like we got to you work with different tools such as zoom, google meets or different different things to communicate with each other, and that time proved to us that we can actually get things done, um, over a call, over a zoom call or over a video call, and we don't necessarily have to be there in person, although it it's very it's based on personal preferences.

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Obviously, some clients do want you to be in their home, walk around with them, look at different furniture that they already have.

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But I also want to mention that in this industry and I'm sure, in any other industries now, things can be done online.

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So, and especially interior design is growing in that area, providing online services.

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Basically, again, if we have a discovery call, we can have it over a Zoom call and you can take photos, you can record a video of your space.

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You send that over to me or any other designers and we provide the information.

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The 3d design tools that we have or any other tools that we have, they are all electronic and we communicate that to you.

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So this actually is super helpful because you may have tons of interior designers in your city, but you may specifically like this kind of interior designer work in the other city, miles, miles away from you, and you don't really have to sacrifice that anymore.

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You can easily reach out to them and things can be done online, and I do offer also online services.

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So regardless of where you live, even if you live overseas, I can provide those services too.

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So it's as easy as, again, having live miles, miles away.

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You get the same service.

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You get the same quality of work.

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Yes, I love that perspective because what really shines through, layla, in so many different ways, is how much you love this stuff.

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But I'm going to use this as an example for listeners, because one thing that I always argue in the world of entrepreneurship is that when we're business owners, we're no longer just the practitioners, you are no longer just an interior designer.

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You are also a business owner, and so, for listeners benefits, I would love for you to share some of your perspectives on the fact that you do get to marry these two.

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You do get to marry being a business owner with the actual work that you clearly love to do.

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What's some of the things that you didn't expect about entrepreneurship?

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That now you look at it and you're just like holy cow.

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That's crazy that I've grown into this role and that's crazy that I'm able to manage all of these things while growing a business.

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Give us some insights there.

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Yeah.

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So again I started this business completely out of my passion.

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So I knew I love interior design.

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I knew I had the taste, I knew um.

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Can you hear me?

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yeah yes, yeah.

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So I started this business completely out of my passion.

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Um, you know I?

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I knew I love interior design, I knew I have the taste for it, I knew I have the skill set for it.

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I knew I can just educate myself a little bit more and, um, do whatever I want out of it.

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But then, when I started having this business, I was like, oh my God, now I am my own CEO, I am my own accountant, I am my own project manager, I am my own salesperson.

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So having all these, being all these kind of people, was difficult and still is a challenge Learning to how sell your ideas and learning to how do your expenses and learning to how run a project at the same time that you're doing the interior design work.

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It was challenging.

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So what didn't I expect?

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To answer your question, what did I expect when I started my business is that I have to learn.

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I have a lot to learn.

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I have a lot to learn, and I needed to learn how to do accounting.

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I needed to learn how to sell my ideas.

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I needed to learn how to do networking.

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I needed to learn a lot, and it wasn't only about execution and implementing my design ideas.

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It was also about how can I have my business profitable.

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So, again, this is not something that you would learn necessarily all by yourself.

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You would reach out to different people, get their experiences, their knowledge, talk to different communities, and surrounding yourself with other entrepreneurs was extremely helpful to me, just like learning what they've gone through, how they overcame it and yeah, so I think that's how you would kind of like marry this to your business ideas and your actual work together.

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Yes, I love that overview.

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These are the realities of what it means to be an entrepreneur.

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So, leila, as we come towards the end of today's session together, I want to squeeze two more questions in, because one I am super curious about the name of your business.

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One tau design.

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Walk us through the inspiration there.

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This is such an interesting question and I was hoping that he asked me that because there is a meaning behind it.

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It's an.

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Actually, it's a combination of two words, one in my own language, farsi, and then the other one is In English, so the other one is in English.

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So the word one is English and ta is part of the Farsi word.

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So putting that all together that means unique, and basically the way that I came up with this business name was I knew that I'm offering unique design ideas and it's different.

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My design ideas and my design services are different.

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So I wanted a name that represents what I'm actually bringing to the table, and unique was something that perfectly could describe my business, and I brought two different backgrounds that I have, so something from Farsi and something from English.

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So you can tell or you can say this word is basically everything about me.

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It's unique ideas with all different backgrounds that I'm bringing to the table.

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Yes, I love the meaning behind it.

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I figured there was a deep meaning to it.

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So the fact that you've been able to blend all of that into one business brand and done it in such a beautiful fashion your website, the way that it follows through all of your branding and the way that your business shows up in the world huge kudos to you.

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So, Layla, my final question.

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I ask this at the end of every episode what's your one piece of advice, that one takeaway for listeners tuning in, who are inevitably going to be inspired not only by what you do and how you serve your clients, but I think what's so powerful about you is your own entrepreneurial journey and the mindset and the perspective that comes with it.

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So what's that one thing you want to leave listeners with?

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I would say starting a business requires both passion and persistence.

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There will be so many challenges, but your passion will keep you motivated and your persistence will help you overcome those challenges.

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And if I want to break it down further, I would say number one believe in yourself.

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Trust your abilities.

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Don't let self-doubt or imposter syndrome hold you back.

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Number two keep learning.

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Be open to learning new things all the time.

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Mistakes are great teachers, so don't be afraid of them.

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Number three build a strong network.

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Surround yourself with supportive people, including other entrepreneurs or mentors, or even, if you're lucky enough, the support from your family or friends.

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They are very valuable and they can provide you valuable advice and keep you motivated.

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And last one start small, but think big.

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Start with what you have and improve as you go.

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Don't wait for everything to be perfect, because it's never going to be happening.

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Because it's never going to be happening.

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Stay persistent and adaptable to turn your vision into reality.

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Yes, important advice for every single one of us, no matter where you are in your entrepreneurial journey, whether you're a wantrepreneur or an entrepreneur.

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Heed Layla's advice, because this is coming from her own experiences.

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Her own journey that she's been so transparent about here in today's episode is that it's ever evolving.

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We are all always growing, and embracing all of these things in our own personal journeys is only going to set us up for success.

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So, layla, we talked a lot about your style, the services that you provide to your clients.

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Today, listeners couldn't see it.

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They just have to listen to us, but drop those links on us where they can find your business and see all of your cool and amazing projects in action.

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Sure, you can visit my website at wantadesigncom or find me on Instagram at wantadesign to see some of my work.

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Also, feel free to email me at leila at wantadesigncom.

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Yes, listeners, you already know the drill.

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We are making it as easy as possible for you.

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Find all of those links down below in the show notes, wherever it is that you're tuning into today's episode, as well as Leila's personal LinkedIn, her Instagram that she mentioned, as well as her business website.

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So don't be shy in reaching out, and if you need interior design services you heard it from her here today is that, no matter where in the world you are, it's accessible to work with incredible entrepreneurs and interior designers, just like Layla.

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So, layla, on behalf of myself and all the listeners worldwide, thanks so much for joining us on the show today.

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Thanks again for having me.

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